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Which one does your favorite character use the most?
watashi
watakushi
ware
waga
ore
boku
washi
jibun
ore-sama
atai
atashi
atakushi
uchi
(own name)
oira
ora
wate
shōsei
asshi
sessha
wagahai
soregashi
warawa
wachiki
yo
chin
maro
onore
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Oct 30, 1:13 PM
#1
Shizuna
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_pronouns#List_of_Japanese_personal_pronouns
Depending on context, some characters can refer to themselves in different ways, in that case vote for the one you hear/read most frequently, however:
My answer: watashi.
A secondary question: which ones did you encounter during your experience with Japanese works of fiction? As someone who is into visual novels where all kinds of language is used, the only one I can't remember encountering is asshi.
俺とシズナの幸せな結婚
Oct 30, 1:38 PM
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Coaghim
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didn't know that :P
- usar el botón de ignorar te hace estupido, no seas tonto y agarra tus cojones que ya eres mayorcito -
Oct 30, 1:40 PM
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Serafos
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Watashi.
Oct 30, 1:47 PM
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Shizuna
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lmao you is otaku
didn't know that :P
@Coaghim For a second there I thought you were talking to me ha-ha, i.e. "you are otaku, huh, I didn't know that".
俺とシズナの幸せな結婚
Oct 30, 1:50 PM
#5
Commit_Crime
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I didnt know that exists :D
I have 2 favorites and while I dont know about Mai Sakurajima, I am pretty sure AK-12 from Girls Frontline would use я
Oct 30, 2:02 PM
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Shizuna
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I didnt know that exists :D
I have 2 favorites and while I dont know about Mai Sakurajima, I am pretty sure AK-12 from Girls Frontline would use я
@Commit_Crime AK-12 uses watashi. Given her personality and social status, I'm 99% sure Mai too, but I can't be certain because it's been quite a while since I watched her anime.
俺とシズナの幸せな結婚
Oct 30, 2:08 PM
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tchitchouan
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Watashi/Atashi.
Oct 30, 2:39 PM
#8
Little_Sheepling
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Junko Enoshima from what I can remember is watashi
Rin Tokikaze I think uses atashi, judging from this guy's video
I don't often play the game with Japanese audio, so I had to watch a bit of it to find out.
I hear her sometimes say atashino & atashiwa, not sure if that's refering to herself or not though?
(Japanese language really not my speciality.
Oct 30, 2:49 PM
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Oct 30, 3:05 PM
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Coaghim
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Reply to Shizuna
@Coaghim For a second there I thought you were talking to me ha-ha, i.e. "you are otaku, huh, I didn't know that".
@Shizuna I know, I did intentionally to create confusion ^^' Sorry about that :D
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Oct 30, 3:15 PM
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WaterMage
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Aqua uses Ore.
Sylphiette use Boku, kinda unexpected cause Boku is generally used by male.
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One of my husbandos uses "ore", the other one uses "boku". :)
Oct 30, 8:41 PM
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Lucifrost
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I remember hearing "watashi" a lot, but I don't pay much attention unless I'm watching raw.
I know I've also heard watakushi, washi, ware, ore, ora, boku, atashi, uchi, and wagahai. I should pick a favorite for whenever I LARP as Japanese. 😉
LucifrostOct 30, 8:48 PM
その目だれの目?
Oct 30, 11:39 PM
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aReviewer
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My favorite is: a(吾 or 我).
The most primitive form (pre-7th century). There are few Japanese documents this period and earlier.
An example in relation to anime appears in the lyrics of the main theme of the movie «Ghost in the Shell».
"A ga maeba, kuwashi-me yoi ni keri"
「吾が舞へば 麗女酔ひにけり」
(When I danced, a beautiful woman dreamed.)
It is like an enigmatic incantation that even a native Japanese cannot figure out the meaning just by hearing.
"Asshi: あっし" is used to refer to male characters in historical dramas.
It is used by ordinary townsmen, craftsmen, outlaws, and civilians hired by officials to maintain public security to address themselves to their superiors in an awed or humble manner. Since it is an urban broken form, not used by formal samurais, priests, or rural farmers.
Older terminology is sometimes chosen to indicate that a female character is actually a non-human being of longevity, but there are cases where inappropriate self-designation is given by the original author or scenario writer.
Such as Senko in «The Helpful Fox Senko-san» or Holo in «Spice and Wolf» do, women who use "wacchi: わっち" for themselves were almost exclusively prostitutes, who were tolerated by the public authorities.
There are some things to praise in these works, but the lack of careful research in the script keeps nagging at me. I'm not comfortable with the choice of this term.
The same goes for "wachiki: わちき."
One rare choice that does not appear in your options is "setsu: 拙", which is used by Gray, the main character in «Lord El-Melloi II's Case Files» in the «Fate» franchise. It is the same as "sessha: 拙者" used by typical ninja or low-ranking samurai in period dramas, a humble expression meaning "a person of no importance," but there are not many examples even in Japanese fiction.
The option "waga: 我が" is probably a mistake. It's not subjective but genitive case of first person that means "my/of me/belong to me/mine," in archaic style. Can I scan the source?
aReviewerOct 31, 1:18 AM
Oct 31, 12:00 AM
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Cielord
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Shizuna said:
A secondary question: which ones did you encounter during your experience with Japanese works of fiction?
I think I encountered all of them, but honestly, hard to say; it's not as I remember every Japanese work I consumed and much less the character pronouns.
Oct 31, 3:10 AM
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Maou_heika
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Conrad uses ore written in kanji 俺
「あなたのためなら世界中を敵にしてもかまわない」
"If it was for your sake I wouldn't mind even if I had to turn the whole world into my enemy"
Oct 31, 3:32 AM
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Anjuro
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Whatever the personal pronoun equivalent of kei is, I forget if there even is one but kei is defintely my favourite "you" word.
Oct 31, 3:44 AM
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Anjuro
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Reply to WaterMage
I have to go check because I couldn't remember.
Aqua uses Ore.
Sylphiette use Boku, kinda unexpected cause Boku is generally used by male.
Honestly if you watch enough anime you will see Boku is quite often used by shy/ tomboyish girls, from my understanding it carries a nuance of deemphasizing femininity when used by a girl. I was much more surprised to hear kun be used to refer to a woman, its rare enough that you can go many years without seeing this usage depending on the type of anime you watch, I mostly see it in workplace environments but I doubt its limited to that.
Oct 31, 3:52 AM
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WaterMage
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@WaterMage Does aqua really use Ore? I watched a random clip on Youtube to confirm but in that clip (https://youtu.be/jEe32t52CAw?si=Wc_DrKW8QgBd-sxh) she said watashi. But wikipedia does say that even though it's predominantly a male pronoun some women do use it. (And I know Chichi from DBZ for example uses Ora which is kinda similar)
Honestly if you watch enough anime you will see Boku is quite often used by shy/ tomboyish girls, from my understanding it carries a nuance of deemphasizing femininity when used by a girl. I was much more surprised to hear kun be used to refer to a woman, its rare enough that you can go many years without seeing this usage depending on the type of anime you watch, I mostly see it in workplace environments but I doubt its limited to that.
Anjuro said:
often used by shy/ tomboyish girls,
It perfectly fits Sylphy then.
Also I saw kun used with girls when older guy talks to younger girls. In Workplace it happens a lot.
Oct 31, 3:59 AM
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@Anjuro bro it's Aqua from Oshi No Ko not that useless goddess. She definitely uses watashi. Also watashi mainly used by females but some male do use it. Willhem Von Astrea is the one I can think of top of my head.
Anjuro said:
often used by shy/ tomboyish girls,
It perfectly fits Sylphy then.
Also I saw kun used with girls when older guy talks to younger girls. In Workplace it happens a lot.
Yeah I do think it fits her personality quite well, but I would also expect that she might start using Watashi or Atashi once she gets more motherly.
" I saw kun used with girls when older guy talks to younger girls" Yup, that's the most common pattern, although funnily enough kun is supposed to be a honorific that denotes equal standing so actually I think when the "senior"/"boss" uses kun hs is trying to speak as a colleague and not as a superior (I think).
Oct 31, 4:19 AM
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WaterMage
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@WaterMage Oh lol XD Nvm then, it was an honest mistake :) Not sure what you mean by "watashi mainly used by females but some male do use it"? Watashi is a neutral personal pronoun, Atashi is the female variant.
Yeah I do think it fits her personality quite well, but I would also expect that she might start using Watashi or Atashi once she gets more motherly.
" I saw kun used with girls when older guy talks to younger girls" Yup, that's the most common pattern, although funnily enough kun is supposed to be a honorific that denotes equal standing so actually I think when the "senior"/"boss" uses kun hs is trying to speak as a colleague and not as a superior (I think).
Anjuro said:
Watashi is a neutral personal pronoun, Atashi is the female variant.
I heard about that previously.
But the animes I watched over 60-70% girl used watashi as pronoun. And very few boys that. And I think it's also irl trend nowadays(I am not sure though).
Anjuro said:
honorific that denotes equal standing
It's attempt to be more friendly from what I understand.
Oct 31, 4:26 AM
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Anjuro said:
Watashi is a neutral personal pronoun, Atashi is the female variant.
I heard about that previously.
But the animes I watched over 60-70% girl used watashi as pronoun. And very few boys that. And I think it's also irl trend nowadays(I am not sure though).
Anjuro said:
honorific that denotes equal standing
It's attempt to be more friendly from what I understand.
WaterMage said:
But the animes I watched over 60-70% girl used watashi as pronoun
WaterMage said:
It's attempt to be more friendly from what I understand.
Yeah, that is pretty much correct I think.
Oct 31, 4:52 AM
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They don't use personal pronouns in my favorite character's country. Verbs are enough.
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Oct 31, 5:50 AM
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There were several girls in my school days who called themselves "boku."
They were all smart, slender, and had well-defined faces (whom would be projected an ideal male image by other girls, one way). It seemed that those who felt uncomfortable or resistant to the "feminine/girly" stereotype or to their own growing feminine appearance chose this pronoun. The majority come to terms with it at some point and land on an ordinary feminine identity because it has a lot to do with the self-conscious struggles of adolescence. However, there are occasional adult "boku" women who are financially independent, such as specialists, researchers, managers, and social entrepreneurs.
Many of them seemed to have aromantic tendencies, but I don't think that they are sexually indifferent or lesbian. I think that people with a conscious stance are often misunderstood and likely to be cautious in their interpersonal relationships to protect themselves.
In the 2D world of fiction, "ボクっ娘: bokkko" and "オレっ娘: orekko" have become major attributes of unique-tasting characters.
Goku's family, including Chichi in «DBZ,» is set up as naïve country folk. The fact that women refer to themselves as "おら: ora" can be considered an expression of a certain rural accent. The original form is "おれ: ore." In pre-modern Japan, some women also referred to themselves as "ore" naturally.
Oct 31, 6:00 AM
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@WaterMage
That's right. Calling women with "-くん/-君: -kun" is customary in offices (however, sounds something old-fashioned and could be poked as anti-feministic, nowadays) and in the legislature. There is nothing prohibited from using it, but you don't hear it much elsewhere. You might have heard the student body president use it for female students.
In the 20th century, gravure magazines used to call models with "-クン: -kun (in katakana for some kind of emphasis)" in captions for photos of women in swimsuits or nude. Bringing her up as high as a starlet, actually, making sport of her a bit. The point is that it is not "-chan," implying that the model in this case is not a teen idol but a 'sexually okay/equally adult' object of desire.
Oct 31, 6:23 AM
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Didn't even know there were that many first person pronouns... Usually I hear just watashi, atashi, boku and ore. I have many different favourite characters, I don't think I can pick only one... I chose ore because that's what's more common among my favourites. I think one of my all time favs uses ore-sama but I'm not entirely sure... I'll have to pay more attention
Oct 31, 8:12 PM
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LadyMarble
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All the Giga Chads use ORE.
(But some of my other faves use boku)
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